Plenty of runs. Like a marathon. Can someone overdose on adrenaline? No way. Bring on another one someday, Carver.
To everyone that gave me advice , Thank you. I think I am a bit faster now. Still have to get the heavy metal music, though. What did y'all think of the day.

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When's the next one?

Thanks to all that showed up, and especially those who helped.
I would love to host more of these in the future if you guys want them.
Carver

So where are those results Mike?

My arms HURT!!!! That was GREAT and much needed....


Kerry

Sorry i couldnt make it, but lack of sleep, lack of money, and Brandi's top getting slashed through at 2 in the morning for someone to steal her radio kinda kept me away today. Hope we do it again some time soon.

Quite possibly the best autocross I've ever been to: everyone was laid back and helped each other. Everyone got a lot of seat time. I shaved off over a full millimeter of tread from my rear tires.

Since there were no results, post your best time.

I got a 48.5, 48.6, and 48.9 on my best runs (no passenger). I wasn't very consistent because I experiemented with a lot of different things so most of my runs were low 50's.

Had fun today and I'll be at the next one. My best run was a 49.5

In talking to a few folks, it seems like the bodies are piling up:

Kerry - one clutch
Benson - one diff and 1 mm of tread
Tim - Tires are gone
James - ring problems?


I say the day was Mongorific.

No Shit Brad, You pulled 51's That car does not look that fast. It really must be because of your smooth driving style that keeps momentum.

Sorry to hear abou tthe top Brandi. Where did Nathan hide the Body? oh never mind I really don't want to know.


My tally is - 3 pounds from running back to put that 5th slalom cone back about 50 times. I was going to just take it out of the string since ya'll seemed to hate it so much.

Note to self bring running shoes next time. Chris Next time I am going to drive that was a great event. Might I suggest in the fall when it is cool again.

I guess with Hassan and others this could have also been classifed as an advanced school. I know he helped alot of peeps sort out suspension. and the scales guy sure was busy, Nice addition to the day.

1905 pounds with street wheel 3/4 tank of gas passenger seat. = 1808ish in race trim. new doors cut 26 pound each possibly down to the 1750's new motor will be lighter too.

My best run was a 47.9

Yes one clutch shot to hell!!!

By the end of March the NEW car should be in the 1980-1990lbs range about 80 less than the current car..

48.7 was my best.

I am still 2.5 seconds slower than Shaw. I show up with new coilovers and tires and he ups the ante with new suspension too.

Had a great day. first time out on my new suspension and big honkin hoosiers. Actually I got it dialed in that morning.

here is my "A Ha" moment story. in the afternoon I was running high right at 50 second runs, did a couple in the 49's. after several runs my car was getting hot and a coil burned out. I did the entire course on 2 cylinders and finished with a 50.5 second run. That is when I realized my problem. "A Ha, I am way overdriving this thing, power is not helping me, and I am expecting too much out of these big honkin hoosiers". So I went back out and turned it down a notch and focused on being smoth rather than fast. That is when I started ticking off my 48 second runs. Basically the the driver was the best thing that I "tuned".

Thanks a lot for a great day.

Fuckin tired!!! That is all i gotta say...

First, my son and I send out a BIG THANKS to Carver and all the others that made this event possible.

This was the first time we had ever driven the snowmobile on wheels. Although I have a good amount of autox experience, this was my son's FIRST TIME driving an autox car.

My best time in three runs was 50.212.

My son ran a 48 something on his third run but shortcutted the skid pad area. So I made him run a fourth time. He ran a 49.154. Not bad for a newbie in a car that still needs sorting out.

Sorry we had to bail early, but the wife had had it by 3PM (not her cup of tea).

We will definitely attend more of these. Next time, we want to help out more with setup, we felt like we didn't contribute much. I would also to meet more of you from this forum.

THANKS AGAIN!

I LOVED IT! THANKS CARVER and everyone else who made this possible.

I'm not one for much competition so this was a great way to get my fix. Got to do some drifting on the skidpad, ran a 49.0 on my all season 235's, and made a stock EVO 9 on 255 Azeni's go 47.4. I also got to help Austin drop 2 seconds off of his time in the EVO 9 just by showing him the areas he was loosing time on.

Not to mention that this was THE BEST autox course I have ever driven. IT really taxed every one of the major autox skills and I'm very happy we got to practice them without the pressure of forcing a good time. Ironically, the SKID PAD was the hardest thing for me to master...if you took it fast or tried to accelerate while traveling around it, you lost ALOT of time (hence Austin's 2 seconds). You could easily enter it too fast and make the circle 40-60 feet longer of a drive if you didn't slow down and hug the cones at a constant rate.

I think we should incoorporate skid pad circle in more of the autox setups. It also seemed to make "looping around" easier on the eyes (yes you were right Kerry).

ALSO I weighed the RX-7. WOW 2808 lbs with a 50.8% F/R split and 49.7% L/R split. No one can tell me that the swap wasn't TOTALLY beneficial now.

Patrick Harris

Go here for videos!
www.putfile.com/harrisracing

And thanks Benson for letting me drift your s2000 around the skid pad...

Who says you cant drift a stock s2000 lol

Christopher.... You suck! haha you need to be faster you have more runs under you than any of us... hehe

I really feal stupid for not going but being under paid like I am $75 is alot of money no matter what is going on. So when is the next one?

I only made two runs in each car....

Sundaydriven Miata lol --- 49.8
Evo (stock) 47.x ( i have never driven an evo before and a couple of more runs i would have been much faster)
Eric's MSP 49.x Damn pwer steering could not keep up with my steering inputs
Darthcivic 49.x on the 15s with a slipping clutch...

Hassan gave me some tips and I was able to get some consistant low 50's with the lowest a 50.1. so close to the 49's on Azenis. I so wanted a 49 sec run.
Thanks for a good event, Carver

Thanks to all who made the event possible.

The idea for 3 sections made the morning good because this is when everyone's "itching" to drive alot. Switching over at lunch was good too to combine laptimes with the morning skills. It was a slower pace but that was good because most of our "itching" has been "scratched" already.

For me in the morning, i focused on the skid pad and got to understand the general handling characteristics of 3 s2000's in a constant radius turn.

The coolest part was that we had the time to break down components. Me and Tim could stop and test say steering inputs and combine it with multiple sources of data (like lap-time, g-force,mph,noise,different driver,different car,air pressure, etc). The only bad part of the morning was I ran out of time to tackle my weakest skill - slaloms.

During the afternoon, I mostly goofed with the software and OBD-2 to come up with a plan to manage my air intake temperature when it get's hotter this summer. I think I've got a way to take this forward and strongly believe the S2000 is handicaped after it's first run with hot temps.

Overall, the day made me understand even more clearly that there is more helpful info at an autoX than I realize.

It's easy to go to an event with a strategy and ideas in your head and a goal to perform to the best of your ability. But too often I forget things like:
-bouncing info and theories with other drivers
-segment times (given Tim's experiment, i bet we can make more use of this in the future)
-obd-2 data
-gforce data
-tire temperatures, and pressure data
-Style differences -- (like slide vs no slide)


Great day! Thanks to all, and let's do it again.

No not for the drifter guys lol... The best drifters are really good road racers. Even most of the pro guys have racing background. And if you can drift properly it shows the level of ability and car control that driver has

I saw you guys run (i was doing start) Just gotta go faster. The mod car will hook. Just have to trust it

Thanks Carver for putting the thing together, I enjoyed it more than a normal Autox too. Tons of seat time, the ability to get advice from others and testing different things. I'd sign up for any of these in the future no questions. Was extremely fun and useful.

The slalom is probably my weakest thing, and I feel I got a lot better at it over the coarse of the day. I also drove Brad's VW and wow, that car is a blast to drive. It took a bit to get used to compared to the Evo, but I think its more fun and rewarding. You have to really concentrate and not mess up the whole way through. Brad may very well be one of the better drivers out there, that car makes you work and the times he runs are extremely quick. I want a rabbit now .

I may have finally found someone to help with my suspension too... having Troy out there with the scales was extremely helpful. While I didn't get him to corner balance my car, I did get to see where it was at, and I was surprised that it was as close as it was. Was almost 50/50 (49.9%) side to side at and 60/40 front to back. Not bad for counting threads on the strut body and eyeballing it . I got his contact info for later when I'm ready to get scaled for real. He was really surprised how much "business" he got out there from all of us, I don't think he was expecting to see more than 2 to 3 people.

My fastest time of the day was 47.02, and I started at I think 49.9 or something. So I was happy cutting almost 3 seconds. I want a front limited slip... I had to wait so long before i could get on the power out of the carousels. I was watching Austin's Evo (the 9 comes with front limited slip stock, while the 8 like mine is just open) and how much earlier you could get in the power on it.

I also burnt just over half a tank of gas. This ended my day, cuz I had no more go-juice left and the E light was on. This also broke my personal worst mileage per tank . 125 miles on 12 gallons of 93, woohoo!

Res

Hassan is DEAD ON for that FM car...Go faster. It's gotta brake and steer better than ours so harness that to it's limits all the time. What do you think was the problem with the car? Sometimes that answer can help us identify a suggestion to either setup or driving technique.

Not to offend, but to me you looked like rookies in that thing. What is/were your backgrounds racing? I hope you got a lot of seat time in it to get it sorted. I had to leave a little early, but believe I saw your boy run one which was pretty fast (as I recall).

Patrick Harris

Oh, to the guy that let us borrow his pocket knife in the skidpad middle section thanks..


and.... i couldn't find you so i have your knife.

email me at work and we'll figure out how to get it back to you

chrishe[>at@sign<]aggreko.com


lata

Let me add my thanks to Chris and his crew of helpers - you all did a fantatic job of organizing this event. It ran smoothly and I believe everybody had a great time - of course, part of that was due to the quality of the participants.

My two best runs was in the 49.92 range but I think I could have done a little better if I wouldn't overdrive the car as somebody else pointed out.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who was tired and whipped out last night. I was afraid I was a wuss for falling asleep by 9pm.

I'm all for another one in the fall when the temps start to get cool but not as cold as they were Sun morning (31º).

I have a bruise from seatbelts.


So when can we do this again Carver? It was AWSOME!

I was completely worn out last night. I think I only made to the beginning of the third quarter of the stuper bowl before I crashed. I ran down more cones than any autocross that I've been to and Joe picked up more than I did.
I only made 4 runs in Carver's 240. Best time was a 49.4. If I learn how to left foot brake, I think I could have picked up some time in the skidpad section by transferring some weight to the front of the car while balancing with the throttle.
Wish I would have had the opportunity to drive some other cars, but I did get to hitch a couple of rides in some quick cars, especially the STI.
Thanks again Chris for letting me use and abuse your car.

My father in law came out and made 2 runs, 1st one spun the car and the 2nd was a 54.xx. 1st time ever driving a car in that manor. With my instruction I could have gotten him down in the 50.xx easy. The first 4 seconds are easy to lose its the last 2-3 seconds that are hard to get.

Kerry

It is not really hard to get a car to go fast... just need some time to understand the fundamentals of the car... Like me driving the EVO... there was a low 46 or actually more like a 45 in that. I am talking stock. And I think I needed about 3-4 more runs in it ( i took 2 and was in the 47s) This is as simple as I can explain driving a car fast. It is reading the course right, driving on instinct and not trying to drive a particular way because someone says that is how it is. In my opinion I can tell more about someone's driving from the outside (just need to ride with them once maybe twice) That way I can see exactly what the car is doing around a certain area (i can figure out what the driver is doing on the inside) Also really there is no "fastest" line out there. That line is whatever line you can drive it fastest.

The fastest way around the course is the fastest way "YOU" can drive it.

Awwwwww.... I haven't been racing my car for a hundred years now.... I missed all the events since Sept 2006. My work has completely owned me and my family time.... I need to get back to motorsports.... started not even a year ago and now I am stuck at work.

Carver, when will be the next one? I promise I will be there.... My MR2 is getting lazy and blunt. So am I the driver!!! I am jealous of you guys...

Ken Goh

Beware of that "slaving for the man" thing. After graduation I feel that it's important to hit the ground running and show them what you are made of for the first 2 years or so...but beware of burnout in a situation like that. I force myself to use my vacation in the position I'm in at work because I realize the toll that "slaving for the man" takes on your relationships and yourself.

I like to refer to vacation time as "sharpening your saw". IF you just keep cutting tree after tree it gets harder and harder each time. You need to STOP working every now and then and "sharpen the saw".

Can someone make a confucious about that?

Patrick

Dunno Patrick.... all this talk about "slaving men" and "sharpening the saw" sounds like you're going kinda Hannibal on us. Take a vacation, dude.

Confusious say
He who slaves for the man cutting trees with saw needs new saw

Do you guys want to have another one the Day before TLAC 1?
That is April 21.
I will set it up if you guys are interested. This will make it easy for other clubs to attend as they may be coming in for Sunday anyway.
Carver

Isn't the TLAC course setup done the afternoon before the event?

Nah we can set up a course in 20 minutes with 5 guys.

I think we should use a course very similar to the past test tune for TLAC.
Fast yet challenging.
This will require me to re-do my "tire management schedule"

HAHA

I guess I didn't realize that "the man" could sharpen his saw for the slaves and just give them to the slaves so that the work stays going fast. I guess that's why "the man" is always sharpening HIS saw.

This is getting deep.

Patrick

Yes let's do one again before TLAC.