anybody have some info about the BMW track day in Sept? like cost and times and whatnot...i checked NPR and the BMW site and didn't find very much to go on (maybe i overlooked it or something) but anyways, if somebody knows more about it could you please shoot some info my way...thanks
-Ryan
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| QUOTE (UnseenIllusion @ Aug 10 2006, 08:59 AM) |
| anybody have some info about the BMW track day in Sept? like cost and times and whatnot...i checked NPR and the BMW site and didn't find very much to go on (maybe i overlooked it or something) but anyways, if somebody knows more about it could you please shoot some info my way...thanks -Ryan |
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BMW DE SEPTEMBER 16, 2006 SATURDAY ONLY - REGISTER TODAY Please see entry form for BMW DE for Saturday September 16, 2006. I put it into the email so you would not have to deal with attachments. Just hit your print button on your browser. Below the entry form is the Tech form. This will be a one day event. Hope to see you there. Harold Petit 504-915-1528 Harold.Petit@JohnstoneSupply.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BMW HIGH SPEED DRIVER’S EDUCATION NO PROBLEM RACEWAY PARK, DONALDSONVILLE, LOUISIANA All drivers must submit separate entry forms for each event with complete information Be sure to check cars structural and tech requirements before submitting an application Please Print or Type Entrant /Driver (this car will have 1 or 2 drivers) (circle one) Name_______________________________Dr Lic #__________________Email _________________ Address: __________________________ City: ______________________ State: ____ Zip: _________ Telephone #: (Home) __________________ (Work) _______________ Fax ____________________ Car Make & Model: ____________________Color: _____________Year: _________ Official Use only car # Indicate Car Number: 1st Choice_______ 2nd Choice________ 3rd Choice________ All Drivers must have a HELMET – DOT 95 or newer. Please also wear long pants. Short sleeve shirts ore OK. A Self Tech of your car by the driver will be required. If you have not had your car checked out by a shop lately, please have that done. All cars are required to display numbers on both sides of the car, minimum Size is 8" high and 1" wide stroke in a color contrasting with the car color. Magnetic numbers alone may not stay on. The use of shoe polish on the side windows is allowed. SKILL LEVEL: (Rate Yourself) Official Use only- run Group # Applicant ( )Beginner ( )Intermediate ( )Intermediate Solo ( )Advanced ( )Instructor PRIOR DRIVER'S EXPERIENCE: Track and type of events Number of days Dates 1) ___________________________________________________ 2) ___________________________________________________ 3) ___________________________________________________ Indicate any and all other information, on a separate page if necessary, pertinent to assessing your driving skills. WE reserve the right to designate run groups based on documentation available and will require instructed check rides to validate skills where applicable. If a two (2) Driver Car, please list other driver’s Name WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE ANY APPLICATION The fee for students and solo will be $140 pre-registered, $160 at the track registration. We are not looking to profit, just pay expenses. Insurance fees have taken a jump. If a Certified BMW or PCA Instructor is assigned a student it will be only $50.00. Entry Fee is refundable in full less a $25.00 administration fee . The fee for returned checks will be $25.00. Date of event Amount enclosed MAKE CHECK OUT TO: BAYOU CHAPTER BMWCCA Sept 16, 2006 _______________________ Send registration form and check to; ATTN: HAROLD PETIT Questions to: No Emails or Faxes accepted. C/O JOHNSTONE SUPPLY Harold.Petit@JohnstoneSupply.com PO Box 23716 HARAHAN LA 70183 I hereby certify that I have no known physical or mental problems, which might jeopardize others or myself if I participate in this event. Applicant Signature Date FEEL FREE TO DUPLICATE ENTRY FORM AND GIVE TO YOUR FELLOW DRIVERS ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TECH FORM BELOW-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CAR # RUN GROUP # ____________ ____________ PRE-EVENT SAFETY INSPECTION INSTRUCTIONS The Driver’s School Participant is solely responsible for the safe condition of his/her vehicle to be driven to, at, and from this event. A qualified individual who is familiar with the make and model for this vehicle (i.e. dealerships, specialty service shops) is RECOMMENDED to perform the safety inspection. Instructors and other Approved Solo Students may inspect their own vehicles. At the time of the safety inspection, the Participant must sign the completed safety inspection report, which must then be presented to the authorized Tech Personnel at the track. The participant will not be allowed to drive the vehicle on the track without presenting a signed and completed safety report and passing the tech inspection on the day of the event. Please provide the following information: Entrant Name: ____________________________ Make of Car: ____________________________ Model: ___________ Year: _____ VIN #: ____________________________ License Plate#:____________________________ State: _____________ Location of Inspection: ______________________ Inspector Company Name & Address: ______________________________________ PRETECH INSPECTION “DONE PRIOR TO EVENT” VEHICLE INTERIOR SUSPENSION & RUNNING GEAR OK REJ OK REJ Interior Mirror Steering Linkage Seat Belts Suspension & Shocks Fire Extinguisher (recommended) Wheel Bearings Pedal in Good Condition Metal/Flexible Brake Lines Brake Pedal Firm Brakes Recently Bled Emergency Brake Operation Rims in Good Condition Roll Bar in Open Car (required) VEHICLE EXTERIOR ENGINE & TRUNK COMPONENTS Stop Lights Battery Secure No Fluid Leakage Electrical Harness No Cracked Glass Relays Secure No Excessive Rust Fan Belt Exterior Mirror Throttle Linkage Windshield Wipers Oil & Gas Lines Secure Gas Cap Secure Hood & Deck Lids Secure Tire Pressures: Front Brake Fluid Changed Rear Oil Leaks Sufficient Brake Pads (3/16” min) Inspector’s Signature _________________________ Date Inspected _____________ Pre-Event Tech Inspection Form, Page 1 of 1 FINAL TECH INSPECTION “DONE AT TRACK PRIOR TO EVENT” OK? OK? Tires in Good Condition (3/32” min) Appropriate Clothing, preferably of a non-synthetic fiber Wheel Covers Rubber-soled Shoes No Loose Objects in Compartments Helmet (Snell SA95 or Later Approved) Lug Nuts Torqued Properly Car Numbers VISIBLE Stop Lights Operable Inspector’s Signature _____________________ Date Inspected ___________ DRIVER/PARTICIPANT CAR TECHNICAL INSPECTION CERTIFICATION AND INDEMNITY I understand that the technical inspection performed on my automobile is solely for the purpose of meeting minimum standards of car preparation for the Driving Event. No warranties are implied or expressed in the passing or failing the inspection performed. I release the inspectors from any and all liability arising from their inspection of my car. I acknowledge that the safe condition and operation of this vehicle is entirely my responsibility as well as any vehicle problems, malfunctions or damage which may occur in connection with the operation of this vehicle prior, during or subsequent to the event. _____________________________________________________________________ ENTRANT’S SIGNATURE Date Note: (Car Entrant, not Driver, if different from Driver) Final Tech Inspection Form, Page 1 of 1 |
You want to codrive the 240 with John?
Where'd you get the form from Benson?
It was emailed out to a bunch of us earlier this week.
Shoot me your email and I will forward you the Word doc.
ccarver@lamar.com
Shoot me your email and I will forward you the Word doc.
ccarver@lamar.com
Can someone let me co-drive their car? I don't think my MR2 is good for that kinda event, maybe open track day.
I have driven at NPR full course once with Benson. Hopefully, Benson can verify for me. I am pretty confident with the course.... errrmmm OK, I admit it.. I am pretty fast at NPR but not crazy driver... conservatively fast... or whatever you wanna call it.
Anyway, Carver or Beson.. can ya forward me that email? kennethmina@hotmail.com
Thanks!
Ken Goh
I have driven at NPR full course once with Benson. Hopefully, Benson can verify for me. I am pretty confident with the course.... errrmmm OK, I admit it.. I am pretty fast at NPR but not crazy driver... conservatively fast... or whatever you wanna call it.
Anyway, Carver or Beson.. can ya forward me that email? kennethmina@hotmail.com
Thanks!
Ken Goh
| QUOTE (ccarver @ Aug 10 2006, 09:41 AM) |
| You want to codrive the 240 with John? |
i was talking to Hassan about co-driving his civic...but if that falls through for some reason i'll def get with you about the 240....btw, with John as in JUST John? i thought you where gonna be there?
and thanks Benson for the info
Got the email from Chris Carver. Thank you sir!
With all this new found HP i have in the bunny i may have to do a track day soon. But far in the future, not enough money and the car itself is far from ready for track.
anybody? me codrive? your car? any? hello?
| QUOTE (93sgte @ Aug 11 2006, 12:54 PM) |
| anybody? me codrive? your car? any? hello? |
Avis rents cars.
| QUOTE (93sgte @ Aug 11 2006, 11:54 AM) |
| anybody? me codrive? your car? any? hello? |
Not many on here except for Benson going to let you drive there cars. Nothing against you but most of us on here have been racing/known each other for quite a few years. One wrong move at npr and you could be buying someone a new car.
Kerry
| QUOTE (KCOUGHLIN @ Aug 11 2006, 07:58 PM) |
| Not many on here except for Benson going to let you drive there cars. Nothing against you but most of us on here have been racing/known each other for quite a few years. One wrong move at npr and you could be buying someone a new car. Kerry |
yeah... i thought the same thing too...
Remember, BMW CCA requires a PRE-tech inspection. This is not done at the track, but before the event.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
The reason I've never thought of attending a BMW or Porsche event is the cost:laps ratio. I've always heard they are expensive ($140 seems to bear this out) and that you don't get many laps. Also, I've heard that anyone not having a license or copious experience must have an instructor in the car.
With all those rules, it just never seemed worth it. Have I heard wrong?
The reason I've never thought of attending a BMW or Porsche event is the cost:laps ratio. I've always heard they are expensive ($140 seems to bear this out) and that you don't get many laps. Also, I've heard that anyone not having a license or copious experience must have an instructor in the car.
With all those rules, it just never seemed worth it. Have I heard wrong?
Matt has got to be the smartest man I know. Next to me. I was thinking the car thing. 130 sort of exceeds my limit also. Probably going to hold off on all the track days till I get some safety things done to the car.
Chris we gotta talk about a roll bar for my buggy.
Chris we gotta talk about a roll bar for my buggy.
Damn - coming from you, Joe, that's a compliment! Thanks!!
(I always knew I liked you!)
(I always knew I liked you!)
those are some pretty good points...maybe the 30th event will be a little cheaper and possibly more runs/fun
Heard wrong for sure. The BMW club events are great providers of seat time for the money at a track day event. As a novice you can expect at least two or three classroom sessions and four on-track sessions per day. Usually there are five run groups: Novice; Intermediate, Intermediate-Advanced; Advanced; and Instructors. Most of the events provide up to 2-3 hours of track time per day. You will have an instructor in your vehicle till he/she feels you are competent enough to be by yourself. Our St. Louis chapter does not sign novice students off their first weekend as policy. The BMW club stresses SAFETY,SAFETY, and more SAFETY in a controlled environment for high performance driving. First and foremost THIS IS NOT A RACING SCHOOL! It is about learning to extract performance out of your vehicle no matter what the make/model may be. As a veteran SCCA/BMW club member and racer I strongly recommend you participate. It is extremely addictive and you will suddenly realize tires, shocks, sway bars, and other similar goodies are not only must have items but will take the place of things like food, the kids college fund (screw them anyway!), and all other normal expenses your significant other feels are conducive to a "normal" home life.
| QUOTE (ken o @ Aug 11 2006, 06:35 PM) |
| Remember, BMW CCA requires a PRE-tech inspection. This is not done at the track, but before the event. |
The application states....
Self Tech of your car by the driver will be required. If you have not had your car checked out by a shop lately, please have that done.
It doesn't sound like they are requiring a shop to sign off on a technical inspection, just a suggestion that you have it done.
Ain't no shops that can adequately check my car better than I can. Except they will charge me more money to tell me my brakes are not stock, my header is too loud, you have a rust spot on the fender. and you should use this fancy schmancy wax to get that shine back. 
Had and instructor and a damn good one. But he drives a Civic Hatch vs. a BMW.
I just need practice.
Had and instructor and a damn good one. But he drives a Civic Hatch vs. a BMW.
I just need practice.
Damn, I just realize that this event is the day before TLAC IV at Zephyrs.
| QUOTE (Dave @ Aug 14 2006, 05:47 AM) |
| Damn, I just realize that this event is the day before TLAC IV at Zephyrs. |
I am going to both.
I have to support Delta
and
Whoop Carver in XP. That's all that matters
and
Whoop Carver in XP. That's all that matters
| QUOTE (joe_914 @ Aug 14 2006, 08:28 AM) |
| I have to support Delta and Whoop Carver in XP. That's all that matters |
Lets see, how many clean runs did you get at the last autox?
How many cones did I pull from under your VW?
HAHA come play both days Joe. You can crash at my place and or split a room in NO.
Carver
mongo says Hassan is slow!
Only takes 1 clean run.
I think you pulled ALL of the cones except the one that was melting up against the header. (chicken)
My my we certainly are of on a bike ride now huh?
I think you pulled ALL of the cones except the one that was melting up against the header. (chicken)
My my we certainly are of on a bike ride now huh?
| QUOTE (joe_914 @ Aug 14 2006, 10:01 AM) |
| My my we certainly are of on a bike ride now huh? |
I now have Nitrogen for our bike tires.
I have done lots of reading and it is supose to be the man.
And you know Mongo is taking this personal so I bought some to try out.
May be willing to sell if it is worth while to others.
Damn it is cheap.
Carver
I'd like to try that stuff. I've heard it works pretty well. Not sure about autox, since my tires just don't heat up. But for a road course, heck yeah!
How much does it cost? Where do you get it?
How much does it cost? Where do you get it?
| QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Aug 14 2006, 10:20 PM) |
| I'd like to try that stuff. I've heard it works pretty well. Not sure about autox, since my tires just don't heat up. But for a road course, heck yeah! How much does it cost? Where do you get it? |
I have plenty, we can fill your tires at the next event. I think I will charge $5 and recoop some of my money out of the bottle and regulator.
Carver
Bit late carver? go to sleep.
air is 70% nithrogen anyway, so unless your using liquid n2 to keep the tires cold its not a big deal. All that drifting and riding bikes makes tires hot.
air is 70% nithrogen anyway, so unless your using liquid n2 to keep the tires cold its not a big deal. All that drifting and riding bikes makes tires hot.
You are correct, in that air is 70% nitrogen. The issue is that 90+ humidity that we live in. The compressed nitrogen is 100% dry and does not have the expansion rate of the compressed air. Inert gasses are the man when they are used correctly. Pressure creap is an issue when roadracing. I start out with 38 in all 4 tires and end up with variations of 45-47. The expansion rate is different in each wheel because of the water content of that tire. So yes it is not a huge deal. but it is another variable that we can control to make the driver even more at fault for being so damn slow.
And it is not late anymore, it is early.
And it is not late anymore, it is early.
That's the exact reason I've been told. I wonder if a water remover or filter (like used for spray guns) would achieve the same effect?
Now, liquid nitrogen would be sweet to have! I bet it'd keep the tire temps down on those long endurance races!!
Now, liquid nitrogen would be sweet to have! I bet it'd keep the tire temps down on those long endurance races!!
Bottle I have says compressed Liquid Nitrogen.
So if you want to fill your tires with the liquid I guess we could.
Might make them hard to reach a traction temp.
So if you want to fill your tires with the liquid I guess we could.
Might make them hard to reach a traction temp.
Yeah I am slow.. we will find out on the BMW track day
Lol
Lol
| QUOTE (Hassan @ Aug 15 2006, 11:20 AM) |
| Yeah I am slow.. we will find out on the BMW track day Lol |
I am getting another 4 hours of track time tommorow.
So I think we will have something to talk about come mid sept.
Carver
| QUOTE (ccarver @ Aug 15 2006, 10:20 AM) |
| Bottle I have says compressed Liquid Nitrogen. So if you want to fill your tires with the liquid I guess we could. Might make them hard to reach a traction temp. |
They would warm up, expand, then blow the tire seal. No question about it. It would happen in a few minutes after you loaded it.
| QUOTE (ccarver @ Aug 15 2006, 02:36 AM) |
| I start out with 38 in all 4 tires and end up with variations of 45-47. The expansion rate is different in each wheel because of the water content of that tire. |
I'd assume each tire has about the same water content if they were aired up around the same time from the same compressor. The variation has more to do with the track and driving style. Outside tires do more work, and speed comes into play.
| QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Aug 15 2006, 09:46 AM) |
| That's the exact reason I've been told. I wonder if a water remover or filter (like used for spray guns) would achieve the same effect? |
Yes it would. I have a refridgerated dryer on the air compressor at work. It gets 45-50% indoor humidity down to less than 2% before it even reaches the tank. We've got some filters afterwards that reduce it down further. I aired up the TLAC rubber with this when I had Tim's trailer, and filled his air tank with it too (after I painted it NOS Blue!).
Dunno if it made any difference
Well go on with your self Mr Azn.
I can carry my 2000psi bottle to the track and use it for air tools.
Beat that!
Carver
I can carry my 2000psi bottle to the track and use it for air tools.
Beat that!
Carver
Yeah... Cant wait to run NPR again...
| QUOTE (ccarver @ Aug 15 2006, 02:37 PM) |
| Well go on with your self Mr Azn. I can carry my 2000psi bottle to the track and use it for air tools. Beat that! Carver |
Oh yeah?!! Well, my lungs are in such good shape that I can just blow up my tires myself. AND HAVE ENOUGH LEFT TO RUN AN IMPACT WRENCH TO TIGHTEN THE LUG NUTS!!
And, it's not hot air, either.
| QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Aug 15 2006, 08:25 PM) |
| Oh yeah?!! Well, my lungs are in such good shape that I can just blow up my tires myself. AND HAVE ENOUGH LEFT TO RUN AN IMPACT WRENCH TO TIGHTEN THE LUG NUTS!! And, it's not hot air, either. |
Had a girl friend that could strip chrome from a trailer hitch ball.
I win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah? Well my girlfriend could put chrome ON a trailer hitch!
There's one thing that can beat a "chrome sucker" - one that can suck a golf ball through 50' of garden hose.
Dave I see your point. But if you got a big trailer hitch you can tow the fat ones home.
Go Fat and/or Ugly before you go home alone?
Is that what you are getting at Joe?
Is that what you are getting at Joe?
| QUOTE (ccarver @ Aug 17 2006, 06:26 AM) |
| Go Fat and/or Ugly before you go home alone? |
"Beer: Helping ugly people have sex since 1838."
U find a track day for less than 140! Won't happen. :
| QUOTE (mzracer @ Oct 3 2007, 02:45 PM) |
| U find a track day for less than 140! Won't happen. : |
Yes it does, all the time when MONGO RACING has a track day at EVO Center....
No kidding. $140 is enough for 2 Mongo days! (or close)
Nicer people, too.
Nicer people, too.
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